Roll and Tip Method of Painting

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By LiamBean

Perfect for the hobbyist

This is perhaps the perfect painting method for the novice hobbyist. Though this method typically requires two people it is easy and provides professional looking results. In fact I've used this method, compared it to sprayed paint, and could not tell the difference.

Roll and tip requires some basic tools. Some you probably already own. it mainly takes careful preparation, plenty of time, and patience. In fact the biggest error typically made with this method is rushing the job.

Ideal Conditions

First, you should only paint when the weather permits. This is assuming, of course, that you do not have a large climate controlled area to paint in.

Your ambient temperatures should be between sixty (60°) and ninety-five (95°) degrees Fahrenheit. Or eighteen (18°) to thirty-five (35°) degrees Celsius.

Your relative humidity should no more than 65 percent. Contrary to popular opinion this has nothing to do with the paint drying and everything to do with how it looks when dry. Relative humidity above seventy percent will cause the paint to dry "cloudy" from the trapped moisture.

You should not paint in direct sunlight. Also, wind conditions should be mild to calm. Direct sunlight will cause the surface of the paint to harden too soon and windy conditions will virtually guarantee that a bug, a leaf, or dirt spoils your hard work.

A friend of mine used this method and was dismayed when his perfect job was marred by a bird that decided to check out his fresh paint-job. He tells me it took him four hours, after the paint dried, to get bird foot prints out of his paint-job.

Tools Photos

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Solvent resistant roller
Solvent resistant roller

Tools

For a first class paint job you'll need the following tools. A detailed explanation on their use follows.

  • Sandpaper (100 to 400 grit), Dry Sanding, read the text for explanation
  • Sandpaper (1000 to 1500 grit), Wet Sanding, read the text for explanation
  • Tack Rag
  • Stirrers
  • Containers
  • Cone Filters
  • Paint (of course)
  • Thinner (for the paint)
  • Solvent (for cleanup)
  • Roller (with extra roller covers; solvent resistant)
  • Brushes
  • Masking Tape
  • Gloves
  • Eye protection

Surface Preparation - Sanding

A number of things need to be done to the surface to get the best coating. If there is already a layer of paint you'll want to at least wet-sand.

Wet-sanding, as the name implies, involves water and sandpaper. You'll want a very fine grit of sand paper like 1000 or higher. This paper is specially formulated to be immersed in water. The water holds the particles that have been sanded off of the paint in suspension. Every so often use a wash cloth or clean rag and squeeze water over the surface you are sanding to "flush" away the loose particles. You should be able to tell when you are getting a nice smooth finish. You can also occasionally wipe the surface dry to check for a hazy finish. This is what you want.

If the surface is unpainted Fiber Reinforced Plastic (FRP) you are going to want to use a lower grit sand paper, 400 grit or so, and sand in different directions with the paper attached to a sanding block. Regular sanding (not wet) is advised for an un-coated surface. An unpainted surface should be painted with a primer coat first. A good primer provides an excellent bond between the raw material to be painted and the actual finish paint that will be seen. It also provides and additional layer of water protection.

Once dry the primer coat should be wet-sanded.

Wet Sanding

Surface Preparation - Cleaning

Once you've got the surface to be painted properly sanded you want to make sure that none of the particles created by the sanding will be trapped in the paint.

First, I recommend blowing the surface clean with compressed air or using a bench brush to clear away most of the debris. Next, use a clean dry rag and window cleaner to get any grease or finger oil off of the surface. Finally, with a fresh rag, use denatured alcohol to ready the surface for paint. Be sure to turn the rag often to present a clean side to the surface you are cleaning. Use a fresh clean rag for each step above.

Next, and for most this step is unnecessary, use distilled water on a fresh clean cloth to wipe away any other debris. I take this extra step and have never regretted it.

Let the surface dry completely.I do not recommend "blow-drying" with an airgun since this has the effect of putting dust and dirt into the air. And where does that settle? You know!

Surface Preparation - Masking

Next you will want to apply masking tape to those areas that you don't want paint on. I recommend painters masking tape as it has a very straight edge and is easy to distinguish from paint due to it's bright blue color.

Masking tape has a number of properties that make it ideal for painting applications.

  • Uses a weak adhesive and is easy to remove
  • Has straight edges
  • Is stretchy and so can be made to form curves
  • Is a good barrier to paint and will not let paint leach through.

Be sure the tape conforms to all of the curves in the areas to be protected. If larger areas need to be protected you can use sheet plastic (held in place with masking tape) or what's called "craft" paper. Warehouse and hardware stores carry rolled "craft" paper that is thin, about a foot wide, and comes in rolls many yards long. This paper has a nice straight edge as well and also repels paint.

As you finish taping an area fold the free end back on itself to create a tab that can be easily lifted away from the job for ready tape removal.

Preparing the Paint

Now that you have your surface prepared mix the paint according the manufacturers recommendations. Be sure to take the ambient temperature and humidity into account.

Once you have the paint prepared in the mixing container you will want to strain it into a new clean container.

Use a cone shaped paint strainer and slowly pour your prepared paint through it into the clean container. This will do two things. It will trap any large particles the manufacturer might have missed and knock out any air bubbles that might have formed during mixing.

Applying the Paint

Now you are ready to paint.

You might want to get that last sip of water (or whatever) or trip to the bathroom out of the way. From this point on you will not want to stop until you are finished with the paint.

About 80% to 90% of your time has been spent preparing the surface. The next 10% ~ 20% will be spent actually putting on the paint.

Load your roller with paint. You do not want it dripping off, but should have enough paint loaded into the roller that you do not have to stop and reload the roller before "tipping."

Apply the paint with your roller. You want to make sure to get good coverage. Do not roll out any more than three square feet of area. Be sure to paint in at least two directions; horizontally then vertically, or in opposing diagonals, to get complete coverage. Finish rolling paint onto the edge that your next pass will start on.e.g. an inch or so of overlap.

Now using your foam or bristle brush, lightly run the tip of the brush end over your paint. You should see a faint pattern of the bristles or foam as you are doing this. Drag the brush tip from top to bottom of the area or in a direction opposite of the directions used with the roller. The brush tip should be at about a 45 degree angle to the surface. Do not use a lot of pressure.This brush pattern will quickly disappear as the paint self-levels.

Load your roller again; remember not dripping, but with plenty of paint to do three square feet.

Be sure to start your next three square feet at the "wet edge" of the last three square feet. e.g. that one inch I mention above. Repeat the process of rolling in two (or more) directions and using a brush tip to smooth out the roller marks.

When you finish the entire area to be painted stop!!! You will be tempted to go back and "touch up" here and there. Don't do it. The paint will self-level. If you go back and try to touch up an area that has already started to dry it will leave marks that will not self-level.This is one of those times when you just have to trust the paint will do what it's supposed to.

Wait the recommended period of time stated on the label for the next coat. This may be up to twenty-four hours. It is often desirable to apply the next coat when the previous coat is slightly tacky, but follow the manufacturer's directions regardless.

You may as well clean your equipment and get it ready for the next job.

Though the video below recommends a particular brand of paint any of the paints mentioned above will work with this method. The video provides an excellent tutorial on the "brush and tip" method. You can even see the reflection of the painter on the boat hull after he uses the foam brush to "tip" the paint. Notice how quick and easy it is.

If you've applied your last coat of paint remove the masking tape now. Remove the tape carefully and slowly by pulling it forty-five to ninety degrees to the surface of your paint. Go slow and it will come off in one long strip. Take care not to let the loose end of the tape touch the surface. You can do this by balling up the removed tape in your hand as you pull it away with your other hand.

If you are concerned about ruining the paint job wait until it's dry, however the advantage to removing the tape now is that any areas that are heavily painted will be harder to remove the tape from once the paint is "set." Removing the tape while the paint is still a bit wet will allow the paint near the removed tape area to self-level.

Is the tape removed? Step away from the job and let it dry.

Roll and Tip Painting

Notes the the Video Above

The "Roll and tip" method will work with any of the many one or two-part polymer paints. In other words it will work with epoxy (two-part) or poly (one-part) paints.

When using the roller be sure to get complete coverage by rolling in at least two directions; horizontally and vertically or in opposing diagonals. Do not paint any more then three square feet at a time. You will want to be able to "tip" the area before it starts to dry.

Notice that this is a "tag-team" operation which is not a bad idea, but it can be done by one person who has had a bit of practice. The fellow with the roller is getting good coverage and the fellow with the brush is "tipping" in two directions which is also fine, but not always required. The "tipper" is using a high quality brush, which is also not required. You'll notice that at one point a bristle comes loose and he has to pick it out of the paint. This is why I personally use foam brushes.

By the way, picking that bristle out and re-tipping is completely fine. Sure beats waiting for everything to dry so you can try to get the bristle out and then repaint that one tiny area.

I've used both spray and "brush and tip" methods of painting. Only an expert can tell them apart.

Cleanup

Cleanup is pretty straightforward. This is the only time to use acetone if you use it it all. Thinner works well too. Denatured alcohol is not going to do the job.

Soak your brushes and roller in one of the solvents for about fifteen minutes. Then with gloved hands work the solvent through the bristles or nap of the roller. Set the brushes and roller aside, throw out the old solvent and start with fresh and do it again.

Finally rinse your tools in cold running water and use a dry rag or old towel to pat dry. Hang the roller and brush in an area with good airflow to allow air drying.

Foam brushes will melt with most solvents so just plan to throw these away.

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Comments

cstewart 3 years ago

Thanks. this was very straight forward and to the point. I have had several people give me advice, but this put it all together and showed me "hands on" with the video.

I am ready to do it....tomorrow.

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LiamBean Hub Author 3 years ago

cstewart: I've used both methods. I spray painted my boat. The port cowl didn't get complete coverage, but I didn't notice until the next day. I didn't want to prepare the paint for spraying, load the gun, spray, clean the gun, and so on...it was just too much trouble for a three foot square area.

I'd seen roll and tip done and figured "heck, I can do that." All it took was the paint (no thinning required), a small roller and a bristle brush. Stupidly, on my part, I bought an expensive brush. Still one coat with the roller followed by lightly tipping did the job.

The next day I went to the garage, compared port to starboard, and couldn't tell them apart.

Best of luck to you, but I'm sure you'll love the results.

HGDemarest 3 years ago

Thank you for your trouble. Perfect directions and hints. Will be

painting a 1966 Tartan 27 in the spring outdoors. Any hints about wind etc.

Now all I have to do is get through the winter. Harry lONG iSLAND, ny

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LiamBean Hub Author 3 years ago

HGDemarest: A friend told me about his experience painting out of doors. He said everything went pretty well except for a curious bird that landed on the (still wet) deck for some reason. He had to wet sand out the bird footprints once the paint dried.

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earnestshub Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

Very nice info. I had never heard of this before. Hard to beat hands on experience too. Thanks!

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LiamBean Hub Author 2 years ago

Ernest: It works beautifully and best of all it's very easy to do. If you've ever painted with a roller and brush you already know how to "roll-n-tip."

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perrya Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

I applied a clear coat to my car using a high density foam roller. I got a lot of small tiny bubbles. Will these be removed by wet sanding? if not, how do get rid of them now?

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LiamBean Hub Author 2 years ago

perrya: Thanks for reading.

Yes, wet sanding probably is the best way to get those out. I can well imagine this will take some time depending on how much of the car you have to sand. Then you'll have to follow that with polishing compound, polish, and then wax.

If you apply clear coat with a roller again use the "roll-n-tip" method of painting. This will get the bubbles out before the paint self-levels.

If you choose to do the car over again another way would be "media blasting." I'm not sure why its called that, but it's not sand. Typically, it's crushed walnut shell and/or baking soda. These two "media" will not burn the metal under the paint like sand will and they are much easier on the person doing the blasting. No silica dust in the air to damage lungs.

Of course if you do this you'll have to repaint whatever part of the the car you are doing this to.

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perrya Level 4 Commenter 2 years ago

I did the wet sanding but the small bubbles flattened and leave small white-like appearance. I was not able to change the texture to a smooth mirror like look-still is bumpy. I was using 1200 grit.

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LiamBean Hub Author 2 years ago

perrya: Sounds like those bubbles run deep. You just have to keep sanding until they are gone. Follow the video above making sure you are using something under the wet-sandpaper to keep a level surface; like a pencil or dowel.

Wet sanding will not give you a smooth mirror like surface. Wet sanding will remove the imperfections. To get that smooth surface you want to polish and wax.

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Manna in the wild Level 4 Commenter 22 months ago

Nice hub - it fits well with my sandpaper hub too and I think I'll link to this from there. You wrote just the right amount of detail.

gonracin 14 months ago

Great instructions, but I still have a question. I bought a boat for very little but the previous owner spray painted with a rattle can and it looks horrible. I have removed the paint and am prepared to wet sand. I was mortified when I saw the price of paint. It would cost me what I paid for the boat to paint it. THinking just above the water line. Topside is still white gelcoat.

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LiamBean Hub Author 14 months ago

gonracin: I'm not sure what the question is.

The paint IS EXPENSIVE, but it should last for years if not decades. The brands, Awlgrip, Interlux, Kirby and Petit are all known for durability and quality. Despite how rugged they are, the paints go on pretty thin; thicker with the roll-and-tip method. If your boat is in the 14 to 16 foot range a quart should give you two or three coats.

Cam 11 months ago

I've got a question if you don't mind... I'm planning on using the roll and tip method on my hull but my hull is very deep , I will have to use several 3 foot squares just to get down to the bottom.. my question is will the paint up top by the deck be to dry to overlap by the time I get back there ? How much time will I have... thanks any help would be greatly appreciated..

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LiamBean Hub Author 11 months ago

Cam: How deep is deep?

It shouldn't matter though. In your case I might recommend the buddy system. One will roll on the paint and the other will tip it with a brush. This will roughly double the speed at which you an do this. I would also check with your paint supplier, explain what you are doing, and let them know you need to retard the cure time somewhat.

All that said the "wet-edge" is not as important as it may sound. That step mainly insures that you don't miss any spots, but by retarding the cure time and doubling up that should solve any "wet-edge" problem.

Finally consider that if you were spray painting you'd still want to keep a wet-edge and you'd have a bigger problem. A buddy system doesn't really work with spray method of painting.

Hope this helps.

cam 11 months ago

Hey thanks I owe ya a cold one... you got me thinking about retarding the cure time and also some trial runs with water lol ,, that and definatly hiring someone else to help .. I'm about 2 months away from paint but really want to have it together before I start.. as far as deep I'm not sure.. its a yorktown so she's got more surface area than the average boat... thanks again LimaBean

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LiamBean Hub Author 11 months ago

Just looked up a picture of a Yorktown. If I've got it right it looks like a ocean sport-fisher with a deep draft hull. Weird, the only one I saw was posted all over the place with Christmas lights on it. Same boat every time.

Yes, I think getting the paint to cure slower and having a hand will get the job done. You might be the one who does the tipping though.

cam 11 months ago

She's a 42" motorsailor built in wilmington Ca 1986. The reason for the deep hull is she's got a flat top... I understand the tipping process . I can make oil based paint look like glass.. I imagine it takes a similar touch .Ill shoot you over a picture of her ( surf taxi ) when I get home to my computer.. thanks again for your help..

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LiamBean Hub Author 11 months ago

cam: I would love it if you can shoot over a picture when done. I'll include it in the article, with your permission of course, as an example of roll-n-tip; credited as well.

Sal 11 months ago

Thanks for sharing the technique.

I am painting a car - it's a fiberglass body - with roll and tip method. I did a lot of body work in it and now I'm aplying a primer layer. I'm using a two component polyurethane automotive primer. I am thinking it's OK to apply the Interlux Perfection finish over this primer - am I right?

Another doubt: Since the amount of paint which rests in the brush (between tips) is relatively low, where to put the brush in order to avoid the paint to get a high viscosity on it, after start the painting?

Thanks in advance,

Greetings from Rio

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LiamBean Hub Author 11 months ago

Sal: Thanks for reading. I've used Perfection. It's really good paint, very durable so I'd say you've made a good choice.

As to the brush. Just buy the cheap foam on a stick type. They'll work fine for tipping and because they are cheap, when one starts to "load up" toss it and use a fresh one.

I made the mistake of buying a china bristle brushe for my first job. The same thing happened to me, the brush started to load up and I couldn't stop tipping to clean the brush. So I grabbed a cheap foam brush to finish the section I started. I couldn't tell the difference between the china bristle area and the foam brush area.

I hope this helps. By the way if you would take some photos you don't mind sharing. I'd love to include your car photo as an example of roll-n-tip if you don't mind. I'll credit you for the photo.

Sal 11 months ago

Dear LiamBean, I really appreciate your help, I know it will save a lot of time and money.

I'll be more than happy to send you detailed photos, when the job is done - I'll contact you later.

Thank you again.

Best wishes.

Mark 10 months ago

Do you think this roll n tip method would work the same on a fiberglass RV panel? The front and rear accent stripes on my motorhome are faded and as the front and rear panels on my rig are fiberglass, I was considering attempting this method. Your thoughts?

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LiamBean Hub Author 10 months ago

Mark: It should work quite well. If you are repainting just your stripes then you'll want thin the paint a bit, mask appropriately, and roll-n-tip a few (two or three) times to get an even look.

gonracin 10 months ago

I made a comment a while back about having bought a boat that was painted with rattle cans. My only advice is DO NOT DO IT. I have spend 50 hrs sanding down to the gel coat, so I have lost interest. A shop has quoted me $500 to paint it. If I change my mind it sounds like a need a QT of primer and a QT of paint (THe boat is a San Juan 21) I really appreciate this post. As a former tech writer/videographer (nuvideo.com) I applaud your efforts! Thanks.

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LiamBean Hub Author 10 months ago

gonracin: You can always use an orbital or power sander at the beginning and switch to hand sanding toward the end. To be honest $500 doesn't sound bad. The paint itself is roughly $100 (or more) of that.

Mark 9 months ago

From an earlier post. Worked fine on the accent stripes on the motorhome, I sprayed the larger panel. I used Duralux Topside Enamel and am very pleased with the results; however, was wondering if I wanted to buff the gloss coat to a higher shine, can wax be applied to this paint after letting it cure for a few weeks or would that destroy the gloss coat....

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LiamBean Hub Author 9 months ago

Mark: I'm very glad to hear you got such good results. This really a great way to apply paint. Oh you certainly can wax the finished paint. You might want to lightly wetsand first with a very high grit (1500 or higher) just to get a slightly glazed finish. The wax will adhere to this and give you a "knock your eyes out" shine.

I know this may sound counter-intuitive, but wetsanding will help the wax stick, it might not if your finish paintjob is super glossy or has teflon in the mix.

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jeremytorres Level 1 Commenter 5 months ago

Well-written and detailed article. Great hub!

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